It should be evident by now that we live in a very interesting time when there's a lot of technical innovations occurring, and we're trying to adopt the ones that make sense and some clearly doing some clearly may not. But it's a very exciting time in the industry, and lots of new technologies are being tried and that creates a tremendous number of new job opportunities. These wind turbines need technicians to maintain them. There's a community college that has a specific program on just that to train you to be a wind turbine technologist. We have a whole generation of clean energy cars that are coming out, and they require special people to work on them and to be following new indifferent safety protocols because these batteries and voltages are potentially lethal. Some people have lost their lives already working on them. So, it's very important that you understand the equipment you're working with. These jobs require special training, and following new and different safety protocols. Many companies are developing sustainability offices and hiring sustainability officers, that's everything from whether or not we should be printing on the print company printers, what kinds of cars we're using, what kinds of deliveries we're making, whether the packaging that we're putting into our products is sufficient or overkill, and what are we using as energy sources for our own building. Are we making any effort to use the most green sources or renewable sources of energy? It's exciting to watch companies embrace this. Now for some companies, it's very important to the products they make and the kind of clientele they have, and the kind of image that they want to say, other people are doing it just because it's the smart thing to do. Some people are doing it because it makes sense to do it because it provides them greater reliability, cost savings, and the like. As much as we've been talking about high technology, as the answer to a lot of these problems, we you have to remind ourselves that very simple things matter as well. Insulating our homes reducing the need for fuels, making lifestyle choices, that goes as far as how large of a home do we need to live in. Again, since everything is energy when you build a $300,000 house, you're buying $300,000 worth of energy. Do you need 5,000 square feet to live in? Maybe not. Think of that as energy embodied into your house. So, one of the things that we read about a lot is what we call the smart grid. I think we really started talking about smart grid after 9-11 because we realized at some level, the system was vulnerable to bad actors, but at the same time, we were also trying to just in your favorite word resiliency. We are trying to make the system smarter, so that we don't sit by the phone and hear about outages. We can in fact learn about them in real time even predict them. So, tell us a little bit about your experience with the evolution of the smart grid as it stands now and where you think it's going. Yeah. So, this is in my eyes one of the most exciting occurrences that's happening in the energy space, is to really start to think about how you make systems like energy infrastructure smart. That's by definition could be a municipality sets its own decentralized micro grid system up. It could also be something like a street lighting system, that looks at itself in terms of predicting when the bulbs will burn out and then actually calling out the service person to respond and change it out. So, you actually never physically see a burnt out ball, it's because the systems themselves are actually smart. So, really defining smart is where I think the biggest challenges is going to be in this industry, because it really depends on the application. You look at what's happening with economic development even here locally and across New York where you have a lot of brownfield remediation. Those sites actually are some of the key sites that your economic developers by his eye looking at developing. So, thinking about how energy solutions and how we can turn smart systems into attraction to look at bringing in Advanced Manufacturers, because smart equates do better power quality more reliable systems, and these are attractants to those individuals, those manufacturers, those potential economic development opportunities that we're looking for here in New York. So, energy strategy in that particular case relative to smart actually becomes a competitive advantage that we can utilize to not only get those sites ready to be delivered, but actually they have the attributes that the manufacturer of tomorrow are looking for. Yeah. I think smart manufacturing today or really any business has to consider downtimes and the economic impact they have your margins can't be so thin that you can't live without a day of production, whether it's because you didn't get the raw materials and or the power went out. So, the utilities are very responsive to try and keep the power on at all times. That's great. It's always interesting to me that there's a sense that production downtime happens only when there is a loss of power. The sophistication of today's facility management systems are sensing the quality of the power that's actually delivered. For those electrical engineers, if you look at a sine wave, there could be a harmonic that's actually introduced that sine wave. Today's facility management systems actually sense those harmonics and will shut down production. If it's a heavily quality control type manufacturing industry, that could be four to six hours of production downtime, because now they have to look at each piece of their equipment, they have to look at the material that was actually being work, they have to look at the tools that dies and all of the systems that are in place on the supply side to make sure that they didn't lose quality along the way, because quality introduced to the consumer from their point of view is loss of business.
