Such was the ubiquitoness of the image that something that, generally does not happen. Now I think, in this case is unique in American history, did take place. This is the stamp that was produced on the, 11th of July 1945, and the reason it is unique in this instance although it is another image of the flag raising. It's actually depicting living individuals on a U.S. stamp for the first time. You can't see their faces, okay? But as James Bradley pointed out even Presidents had to die, to get their images on a stamp. So, you can start seeing now how the importance that was attributed to this image in the population more generally, will start to work through and I think the fact appears on stamps, gives the universality of the image more generally. Now I'm not sure there's really a, a British equivalent. Certainly the fact that Doctor Who now has a set of stamps doesn't come anywhere near it. But there really was, again, is something about status within society that you represented in a, a very public forum which is, if you like, the mundanity for being posted from one area to the next. So, that's one thing to think about in this context. Now the symbolism extends further, and as you will see in the film, and particularly if you read the book it didn't end with stamps and placards and posters in 1945. We have an enormous recreation of the original image and I'll talk about that in a, in a huh, bit of a minute, in Virginia. And it's suddenly became synonymous with the spirit of patriotism in America. So we here, we have two instances. We've George Bush Senior. And also Bill Clinton making speeches with a patriotic theme but standing in front of the recreation of the image as a more than life size monument and the two images there this is the Marine Corp War Mem, the Marine Corp War Memorial. In Arlington National Cemetery and using the flag raising image as a back drop. I believe this was dedicated in November of 1954 and actually the figures are 32 feet high and the flag pole is 60 feet okay? So the way that has been described in, in American history and I know we're looking at the middle of the 20th century and considering this now in the second decade of the 21st century. But a history for all time. An image for all time is actually what I meant to say. So, we can consider it, in this context, as an image for all time. It also became the template for a coin minted. $1 coin honoring the Marine Corps, and again, there is a, a view of that actual image as it stands. So in a lead-up to hopefully being able to watch the film, this gives you a very broad context of how that image. If you're on a stamp, you're on a coin, it's used to promote government borrowing, et cetera. We can talk about it becoming iconic in that regard. How far it actually becomes embedded into a national consciousness. Now the last image I'm going to put up here. Is something which relates to the flag raising, but is a 21st Century event. And the parallels with men in pursuit of their duty raising the American flag. again, this is an image which comes up in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks on the Twin Towers. And again, embodied in a stamp of the same time. Not quite to the same degree. This is not an anonymous group of individuals. But it's difficult to identify where their faces are, et cetera. But it's in a very similar context, in this case it's if you like saying we go on. This is a tragedy, yet in the midst of the tragedy, you are having something which has that symbolism the American flag being raised once more, we will overcome, we will continue. And again we're talking about a photograph in the process of the Flag being raised. So, this hops right away back to what we were looking at, at the beginning and the nature of flag raising. Having a flag on display is one thing. But actually the anticipation of achieving it seems to carry greater weight in America than perhaps elsewhere. [BLANK_AUDIO]