So we have a really good overview of more theoretical points. But if we're really applying these to practical example on a relationship, important concept that comes up for me is that element of power in relationships, and how that really can dominate how people interact within a relationship. And I was wondering if you could just tell me more about how this would fit into your framework. >> Yeah, like when we are doing this within academia, it is obviously not possible to even talk about relationships without talking about power, you know. Feminist scholars have always drawn our attention to how important it is in conditioning almost anything. And like from the queer community like they question the understanding of power within the heteronormal framework. So, we do not use that much jargon or conceptual, technical ideas, and just get really down to earth, right? We understand that like power is associated with certain social positions and conditions. Like say for example, if you're a man, you may have more power generally than a woman. And then, if you're white, you may have generally more power than a person of colour. And then, if you are straight, and you may have more privilege than someone who is not, and so on. And then, you can talk about like age, right? If you are younger, maybe it's a little bit better. It depends on how young though, right? Like if you're 14, then you may not have a lot of advantage. But if you're 34, maybe. But if you were 84, you would have lost some of that power. And then, we talk about income level and social status and social capital and all that. So, but then when you put all these together, right, in a relationship, all these are put together, right? So, you're there, you're not just representing a skin colour, a gender, or a sexual orientation, an income level, or, you know. So, people will be like performing themselves within this really complex set of forces. And it is not unusual for us to see, in our work I guess couple counselling, to see someone who, on paper, might be occupying privilege, powerful positions, but feeling relatively helpless and frustrated in a relationship. And someone who might not have a lot of power on paper can actually be playing sort of more dominant role. Yeah, you can say that statistically that is not as likely, but it does happen, right? So, and when we're dealing relationships, obviously with all these general observations about power, we have to be very conscious of them. But then, when we look at two individuals interacting, we would be paying more attention to what I generally call like personalized, or individual, strategies of being, strategies of identification or identity. And when power is involved, there are also strategies of resistance. So you may find, say for example, a woman who is from a middle class background, well-educated, in a relationship with person of colour, man who is low income, not well educated but still feel like limited, oppressed, or even abused in that relationship. And then to us, we will have to figure out how did that happen, you know. And so, this is like a very different take on power. We always look at very personalized individual circumstances. Being mindful, of course, of the social, political reality associated with some of these markers of power, so to speak.